Primordial Ooze...

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Post by waysoftheearth » Tue Aug 25, 2015 7:08 am

Re: Primordial Ooze...

sully wrote:I believe I still need randomized languages but otherwise, I should be ready to go.

EDIT: My sheet says 4 HP but not sure if that was a placeholder or if you rolled it.

MORE EDITING: Does he have to take a slot to be literate in each language he speaks, or one slot to be literate in all?
Hmm, my apologies! I seem to have somehow overlooked The Herald in the determination of random languages!

I will dice for his languages shortly... Meanwhile:

Yes, the 4 hp was just a place holder on the example sheet.

Yes, literacy (taken or diced once) applies to all known languages.
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Post by waysoftheearth » Tue Aug 25, 2015 7:15 am

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doctorx wrote:Please bear with me!
Never fear docx, you won't miss this boat ;)

If you need help with the numbers, just post a question here. I'm sure ample assistance will be happily forthcoming!
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Post by waysoftheearth » Tue Aug 25, 2015 7:18 am

Re: Fighting Man (In Progress)

ehiker133 wrote:Almost got it, Todd, but there are a few things to address.
Thanks ehiker, some great advice there :)

One minor alteration (which possibly wasn't quite clear in the house rules):
ehiker133 wrote:For your starting languages, you begin with Illiberal, Gothic, and a Lawful language of your choice.
In fact the language of your choice can be any language of any alignment except a counter-alignment tongue (i.e., one that is not your own alignment tongue).
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Post by coffee » Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:53 am

Re: Primordial Ooze...

waysoftheearth wrote:Karl Fredrich Schmidt speaks Gothic (man), Illiberal (common) and two randomly determined Lawful tongues: 2 # d19 → [2, 18] so Golden Dragon and Unicorn. Err, if that ain't cool, what is??
Hey, if you're a Golden Dragon and you need your Unicorn shod, where are you going to go? To a smith, of course. And what are you going to do while waiting around? Talk with the family of course.

Smiths are partly magical, you know. :D
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Post by waysoftheearth » Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:20 am

Re: Primordial Ooze...

Brother Herald speaks Gothic (man), Illiberal (common), Empyrean (lawful), is literate, and knows two more randomly determined lawful tongues: 2 # d19 → [14, 16] so Xanadu (man) and Titan.
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Post by waysoftheearth » Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:18 pm

Re: Primordial Ooze...

Sindaval's spellbook, The Evanescent Opuscule, contains the following incantations:

** A Single Spell of his own Contrivance !! ** (Please PM me your proposed spell),
Epifinication,
Godluc's Pallium,
Yizmund's Unlikely Rorqual,
The Enigmatic Palaver,
The Meritorious Schlepp,
Mizzlebrume,
The Zeligneous Perterbations.
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Post by Todd » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:54 pm

Re: Fighting Man (In Progress)

ehiker133 wrote:Almost got it, Todd, but there are a few things to address.

The way the stats work is that you first pull one set of rolls out for your coin purse. In this case, it looks like you pulled one of the 9's out.

At that point, you need to take the remaining rolls, in order, for your Str, Int, Wis, Con, Dex, and Cha scores. Since you are going with human, you get to replace one of those full sets of rolls with a 12 (not one roll in one of the sets).

So your base rolls are:
14
13
12
9
12
5
9

If you pulled out the last 9 for your coin purse and replaced the 5 with a 12, then you would have:
str 14
int 13
wis 12
con 9
dex 12
cha 12
90sp

If you pulled that first 9 out for your coin purse and replaced the 5 with a 12, then you would have:
str 14
int 13
wis 12
90sp
con 12
dex 12
cha 9

Either one is going to net you about the same character. Since a 9 and 12 CHA give you the same hirelings/reaction, you might take the build with the 12 Con for the better shock survival chance.
Actually, this was my array and my methodology:
  Code:
[ 5, 3, 6 ] => ... (14) C
[ 5, 6, 2 ] => ... (13) D
[ 5, 6, 1 ] => ... (12) CH
[ 6, 1, 2 ] => ... (9)  $
[ 4, 4, 4 ] => ... (16) S
[ 1, 1, 3 ] => 12  (5)  I
[ 1, 3, 5 ] => ... (9)  W
ehiker133 wrote:For your starting languages, you begin with Illiberal, Gothic, and a Lawful language of your choice. Then you get two more at random (assigned by WOTE).

Your AC would be 4/6 (the shield provides you two pips to AC, so you lose both pips when attacked from the rear).

Finally, you might write a brief (3-4 sentences) description of what drives your character and how they know the languages you've chosen for them.
Will get those in. Is there a list of lawul languages anywhere? Found it.

Let's try this again:
Todd wrote:Fendrel the Lawful Human Fighting-Man
  Code:
Fendrel
Lawful Human Fighting-Man

STR: 16
INT: 12
WIS:  9
CON: 14
DEX: 13
CHA: 12

HP:
AC: 3/5

Languages: Illiberal, Gothic, Empyrean, [random]

BACKGROUND:

The third son of a merchant family, Fendrel was sent to study the faith of Law. However, he found temple life too restrictive so, drawn by tales, high and low, of the wild Hinterlands, he has come to make his fortune.

POSSESSIONS:

* Coins: 21sp
* Mail armor (30sp)
* Shield (15sp)
* Flail (8sp)
* 6 iron spikes (1sp)
* Hammer (3sp)
* 7 days of rations (7sp)
* 100ft rope (2sp)
* 6 torches (1sp)
* Tinderbox (2sp)
* ordinary clothing
* backpack
* bedroll
* supplies (7 days)
* water skin
* coin purse

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Post by ehiker133 » Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:08 pm

Re: Fighting Man (In Progress)

Todd wrote: Actually, this was my array and my methodology:
  Code:
[ 5, 3, 6 ] => ... (14) C
[ 5, 6, 2 ] => ... (13) D
[ 5, 6, 1 ] => ... (12) CH
[ 6, 1, 2 ] => ... (9)  $
[ 4, 4, 4 ] => ... (16) S
[ 1, 1, 3 ] => 12  (5)  I
[ 1, 3, 5 ] => ... (9)  W
There are two problems with your methodology, Todd. One is that you cannot assign roll sets to a stat. They must be taken in order. The order is: Str, Int, Wis, Con, Dex, and Cha. So after you pull out a set of rolls for your starting purse, then you must apply the remaining rolls, in order, to the six stats. The other issue is that the set of [ 4, 4, 4 ] => 12, not 16.

You're also missing one of the rolls.

So this is what your array needs to be, if you pull the [ 6, 1, 2 ] => 12 for starting coin:
[ 5, 3, 6 ], ...14 Str
[ 5, 6, 2 ], ...13 Int
[ 5, 6, 1 ], ...12 Wis
[ 6, 1, 2 ], ...120sp
[ 4, 4, 4 ], ...12 Con
[ 1, 1, 3 ], 12...12 Dex
[ 1, 3, 5 ], ...9 Cha

Also, your AC should be 4/6. 4 is for mail armour (AC6) and shield (-2 AC pips) and 6 is because only your mail armour works when attacked from the rear.
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Post by Todd » Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:55 pm

Re: Fighting Man (In Progress)

ehiker133 wrote:
Todd wrote: Actually, this was my array and my methodology:
  Code:
[ 5, 3, 6 ] => ... (14) C
[ 5, 6, 2 ] => ... (13) D
[ 5, 6, 1 ] => ... (12) CH
[ 6, 1, 2 ] => ... (9)  $
[ 4, 4, 4 ] => ... (16) S
[ 1, 1, 3 ] => 12  (5)  I
[ 1, 3, 5 ] => ... (9)  W
There are two problems with your methodology, Todd. One is that you cannot assign roll sets to a stat. They must be taken in order. The order is: Str, Int, Wis, Con, Dex, and Cha. So after you pull out a set of rolls for your starting purse, then you must apply the remaining rolls, in order, to the six stats. The other issue is that the set of [ 4, 4, 4 ] => 12, not 16.

You're also missing one of the rolls.

So this is what your array needs to be, if you pull the [ 6, 1, 2 ] => 12 for starting coin:
[ 5, 3, 6 ], ...14 Str
[ 5, 6, 2 ], ...13 Int
[ 5, 6, 1 ], ...12 Wis
[ 6, 1, 2 ], ...120sp
[ 4, 4, 4 ], ...12 Con
[ 1, 1, 3 ], 12...12 Dex
[ 1, 3, 5 ], ...9 Cha

Also, your AC should be 4/6. 4 is for mail armour (AC6) and shield (-2 AC pips) and 6 is because only your mail armour works when attacked from the rear.
Don't know where the 16 came from... must have been wishful thinking on my part. ;) I see how I misunderstood the attribute ordering-- I thought you basically went in order of the attributes, starting after the roll assigned to the purse just rotating to the top of the array when the bottom was reached, that's how I arrived at my layout.

The online DD rules has AC 5 for mail, that's where I got it from. I'll change it.

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Post by ehiker133 » Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:42 pm

Re: Primordial Ooze...

No worries! I'm here to help as much as play (and to push the DM by doing unexpected things when at all possible)!

Ah, yes, there are a few changes for this game (some of which I believe are play tests for updating the rules in Ver. 5, but I don't know that for certain).

Here are the combat rules where the change to AC is covered:

http://forum.immersiveink.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=585
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