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Re: Out Of Character
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:22 pm
by acodispo
Well, they must have found a way to fix it without coming out here -- we're back on the internet! Thank goodness, I was going through cat video withdrawal.

Re: Out Of Character
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:33 pm
by mushgnome
Welcome back!

Re: Out Of Character
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:07 pm
by acodispo
mushgnome wrote:Welcome back!

Thanks!
Re: Out Of Character
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:42 pm
by rredmond
acodispo wrote:I was going through cat video withdrawal.
Welcome back!
Re: Out Of Character
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:35 am
by mushgnome
Anybody watching
Lovecraft Country on HBO?
You know I wouldn't miss it for the world!

Re: Out Of Character
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:56 pm
by ehiker133
mushgnome wrote:Anybody watching
Lovecraft Country on HBO?
You know I wouldn't miss it for the world!

No, but... I have HBO Max, so I'll see if it's one of the shows they offer.
Re: Out Of Character
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:47 pm
by mushgnome
Only one episode of Lovecraft Country has aired. Very promising so far! I wish all the episodes were out so I could binge-watch it. It is Jordan Peele produced, so if you liked Get Out, you'll love this. Another comparison people are making is the HBO Watchmen series, if you enjoyed that? Lots of genre-hopping, audacious tonal shifts, multifaced characters, sly wink-wink to the audience, mocking horror tropes while simultaneously milking them for full effect, etc.
The writers made the smart move that the protagonist is well-read and always has a pulp novel in his pocket. This cuts through a lot of tedious exposition. For example the first time Arkham is mentioned, instead of "Arkham? What's that?" he casually says "Oh, you mean where Herbert West the Reanimator is from?" and reaches down a book from the Lovecraft section of his bookshelf, flips it open to the right page. And there are a bunch of easter eggs and visual puns referencing John Carter, War of the Worlds, Evil Dead, etc.
Watching it helped me put my finger on what I like about Lovecraftian horror vs. cheesy slasher flicks: Instead of bad things happening to stupid people because they're foolishly in the wrong place at the wrong time ("let's make out in the abandoned insane asylum"), in Lovecraftian horror, bad things happen to smart people because they're in the right place at the right time (a decision which they soon come to regret). It's about the irresistible urge of needing to know the forbidden lore, no matter what the cost.
Re: Out Of Character
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:42 pm
by acodispo
Sounds like a really fun show! I saw a trailer or teaser last night & it looks beautifully shot. I think I heard it's based on a book? I'm wondering if I should read before watching.
mushgnome wrote:Instead of bad things happening to stupid people because they're foolishly in the wrong place at the wrong time ("let's make out in the abandoned insane asylum"), in Lovecraftian horror, bad things happen to smart people because they're in the right place at the right time (a decision which they soon come to regret). It's about the irresistible urge of needing to know the forbidden lore, no matter what the cost.
I love this distinction!

Re: Out Of Character
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:07 pm
by mushgnome
It is based on a book, which I haven't read yet. I'm going in fresh and unspoilered. I couldn't tell you if the series sticks closely to the book, or if it's just a loose adaptation.
They do a really great job not shying away from the thorny "separating the author from the text from real-world social issues" question. For example early on, our protagonist is asked, "How can you be a black man and root for John Carter? Wasn't he a captain in the Confederate army, fighting to preserve slavery?" (And our hero's answer basically sums up the overarching theme of the series; I won't try to paraphrase it because it's brilliant.)
Re: Out Of Character
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:03 pm
by ehiker133
If anyone is interested in HPL and enjoys podcasts, there is a great one that analyzes the various stories and... I don't know what else they discuss, but there are 510 episodes. I haven't made it through 1/4 of them.
The H.P. Lovecraft Literary Podcast is what it's called.
The Call of Cthulhu Mystery Program by Omniverse is another great Cthulhu podcast, but this is a semi-improvised theatre podcast. They have two seasons in the books that you can listen to. I thought the third season was coming out soon or should have been out by now, but I can't remember when that is.